if a straight couple would have been arrested for having sex on their balcony, then it could be a different perspective. If only a gay couple would be arrested, then I do see this as a human rights issue.
A gay couple getting arrested for having sex in public? Seriously, that’s called Indecent Exposure and Public Sex; both of which are illegal regardless of whether you’re straight or gay. Having some common sense is not bigotry.
Keep it in the bedroom, people.
????And which country is it okay to have sex out in the open where everyone can see? This was just plain stupid. Do they think that if they were a straight couple and they did this in Japan that they wouldn't have been arrested also?
This gay couple that got caught having sex in public got what they deserved. Now they want to whine and bitch about how "they were treated." What they hell did they expect?!? I'm a bi male and Im embarrassed these trolls made all gays look bad. Fucking jerks!!!
Why in the Hell would u screw on the balcony ??? Never-mind going to a country that anti gay..... just re enforces what some of the “gay” men feel they are entitled to do and gives US a Bad wrap becuz you 2 clearly have no kinda sense ... its sad
Again they don't show or describe what this couple allegedly did!
However if this is a straight couple doing the exact same thing I that no one would pay one bit of attention!
I'm sick and tired of the double standard even by our own community members imposing this double standard
First of all take note that this does not show what these people did it doesn't even really describe what they did in detail, and regardless of what they did or did not do it does not warrant any country dragging them through the streets as described making an example of them.
This is a human rights issue, clearly!
And I see plenty of homophobic comments, even though they may be subtly veiled.
And to answer the question why would they go on this cruise, most people don't check the laws out it other places that they're going, do you, I'm assuming these people asking the question or straight you check out all the laws and all the countries you're going!?
And one would assume that the company the cruise liner would not take a boat of gay people to a country with homophobic laws in the first place but apparently they do, so buyer beware.
Next time when traveling abroad I suggest that all gay people do an old-fashioned thing and go through a travel agency, a gay travel agency they will not sell you any tickets to any country with such laws!
Gays are fucking disgusting and have zero morals. In Toronto, they do 'cruising' at a local park, and there are condoms all over the children's playground. Police arrested over 70 homosexuals lurking in the area for sex and engaging in disgusting behaviour.
Why would they get off the boat if it could be dangerous? Just be careful no matter if you are gay or straight. Be aware of high crime or otherwise dangerous places especially when away from your home country. I'm not saying these guys did anything wrong, just everyone needs to be careful.
This is fundamentally a gay rights issue. The internalised homophobia of the 'other' couple is part of the problem NOT the solution. These are the type of gay men who try to be straight, get married, have children all while in the closet - this is what gives 'gayz' a bad name!!! Do the gay men in that '3rd world country' not deserve to love whom their heart chooses, rather than whom the law prescribes!?!
As a gay man I'm ashamed of the actions of people like this. There is such a thing as common curtsey and basic morality. People like this make things harder on the rest of us because they create a larger divide and give the anti-gay establishment more fodder for their hatred.
How is this not a gay rights issue? There used to be laws there were used against gays here in the U.S for having sex....the sodomy laws. It was wrong and we fought it and it was a part, a big part of gay rights. I wasn't there so I don't know the details but it was a pretty big boat and they were on their balcony, so how could you tell they were indeed having sex?
Unless you were close enough to actually observe penetration you don;t know for sure they were having sex. I've watched many a porn video with perfect lighting and close camera views with al the sounds of sex only to discover it was fake, there wasn't any penetration, the top wasn't even hard. Porn isn't edited that carefully and sometimes a shot that wasn;t intended gets in there.
Why would the second couple want to say that anyway? Did you just want to be on tv? You just felt it was the right thing to do did ya? Call the news often with your take on things? 14:59 and you're gone.
UGH! What is it about our community where some folks act outrageously and then cry foul? Like the two bears, I too want a positive image for us. We are having an issue with our Pride festival this year because it's in conflict with Yom Kippur. The local newspaper chose to show drag queens to represent the story rather than the even organizers and Jewish leaders!
How on earth do you know that? I bet the straight couple would not have been paraded through the town to be shamed. Yes, it was a foolish act, but a straight would surely not have been arrested and ridiculed.
My first question is why was that gay cruise going to a place that brutally hates homosexuilty? I would be affraid for my life knowing those crazy insane people know a gay cruise is about to dock on their home of ignorance. Maybe it was a good thing plans got ruined, they may have murder other tourist visiting their ignorant home because they are fulled with so much hate about homosexuilty. I bet the tables would have been turned if they saw some big breasted blonde getting slammed by a straight guy. They probably would have wanted to see more.
This only shows the Worldwide ignorance in being gay. On both sides. The Cruise Ship is responsible in taking passengers to friendly domains. Apparently Not.
Domincan area of hatred towards gay individuals. The Cruise Line should be ashamed. Arrogant anti-humanity diplay. Let's take gay people to a place where they can be arrested.
Then we must also aknowledge that some members in our gay community have self-entitlement. I cannot change who I am. Gay from day one, anymore than the Politicians can change their Self righteous ignorance in humanity.
Bottom dollar. No win on either side. Ignorance in all. So plain, so simple.
I no longer fight for any rights towards any cause. Discrimination in all points is apparent. One Ruler over all Gods, over all people.
I see both sides. First..a gay cruise is pretty much non stop fucking..like bear events..so these queens have to have some common sense. 2nd...I blame the cruise line for opting to visit gay hating nation's..fuck the islands that have the issue..and lose out on the gay $$$. I believe tho..that if there was some pussy involved..things would be different.
There are homos who like being naked around and fucking in public, old, young, creepy, ugly, fat whoever, they don't show respect for policies, they know the consequences but they do fuck in public anyways, when they get caught by cops they allege that they are discriminated for being homo, GTFO
The Dominicans don't mind taking our support money, do they? Piss on them. They are a poor insignificant country that has no right to do anything to others especially, when America is keeping them afloat. Piss on their people, country and laws.
I will not and, I urge others to NEVER send any aid of any kind to Dominica nor should any Americans EVER visit their nasty, filthy hellhole of a country.
The next time they are hit with a hurricane let the bastards sit in their own filth.
" Piss on their people, country and laws. " Dumbfuck, Shitmerica isn't 'keeping them afloat', you ignorant,unintelligent fool. Your filthy disgusting country is the by far and away the most corrupt reprehensible place on this planet bar none. The sheer audacity of the place with the most racist murderous corrupt history in the world casting judgement is pure comedy. Piss on yourself first, dipshit
I totally agree, the tour operator shouldn't have chosen this port. That said however, this is 2017, how long are these people going to live in the dark ages of the past. To still have anti-gay laws on the books today is absurd, insipid and offensive.
Even the Soviet Union lifted criminal laws relating to homosexuality. For the most part, they don't like gays but it's not illegal!
Pample Moose Dominicans don't hate gays, but Dominica (Domaneeka) which hold similar beliefs as Jamaicans would kill you for being gay. That cruise ship should have never taken them there. That is like taking a bus load of black people into the Jim Crow south in the 1920s not good.
It's very sad but I completely believe this story, so many gay men feel the need to expose themselves with public nudity and sex for some unknown reason. This isn't a gay or straight issue, it's a decency issue. If the gay community wants respect, then act respectable.
George Arellanes Jr I strongly disagree unless you are talking about most Muslim countries. As a gay man I am comfortable traveling to countries that are not as enlightened as we here in the US. We can let them meet openly gay people and let them see we are as human and normal as they are. Having sex in public view certainty is not the way to do that though.
George Arellanes Jr I know right. I wonder how many babies were conceived in the 50's in those places they use to call lovers lane or parks? Probably half the baby boomers!! Cause lord knows teens in those days could not have sex at home or be in a closed room with their teenage love. That's why there was places like that.
As a gay man I still have to say there's a time and a place for everything, and having sex on your balcony for all to see is not the time nor the place. That couple we're very lucky all they got was 19 hours in jail, in other countries they would've been killed. Of course I abhor any violence towards gays or lesbians, out of pure ignorance and hate, that being said they were very foolish and just plain stupid to commit in Indy is an act in public in a country that is no one to be homophobic. It all boils down do you respect, they knew the laws of that land yet they chose to break those laws, right or wrong as we may see them, if you're in their land you have to respect their laws like it or not. These so-called big gay cruises or something I would never be part of because I don't see the need my spouse and I are quite comfortable going on a regular cruise with everyone else, I just don't see the need to separate us is gay from the rest of the world. Being gay is a part of our lives but it is not the end-all and be-all of our lives, and frankly that couple deserves what they got for being so ignorant and careless. Unfortunately, promiscuous sex in the gay community is part of the culture, but as I said there is a time and place for everything, that was neither the time nor the place, especially in a homophobic country, but that's just my two cents.
Honestly they deserve to be arrested because they broke the law in another country for example if in one country you are allowed to make u turns at every stop sign you can't come to the US and make u turns at every stop sign because it is simply illegal. I myself am gay so this is not a matter of homophobia it really is a case of common sense and logic.
I am gay, and you are a complete idiot, why someone has sex for the world to see? If you want to have sex in front of children and other people you are going to be arrested even in the USA.
I can also see, you are one of those rats that like to have sex with anything that moves.
As a black man whom is also gay it fucks me off when a person of colour or a gay person 1- breaks the law and is arrested and screams racism or homophobia and 2- many gay travel literature eg Spartacus outline countries that are intolerant of gays or have strict anti gay laws.
My view is read up about the countries before you travel to those countries
I think having sex in public is a no no though. I mean I wouldn't like my children to walk somewhere and see anyone having sex in the open public gay or not. But as for the police making a public show if it, I"m not surprised. Police are shit heads anyway.
Totally agree!! And i never never understood all the gay travelers who travel and even work to homophobic countries either! It doesnt make any sens for me.... i will never ever spend one buck to these crazy countries they dont need my "pink" money so i dont need them. I m talking about Dubai Turkey Russian Tunisia Marocco China and the list is long. Too bad i will never visit these beautifull countries but i dont care!! They dont like me so i dont like them.
According to Maritime Law, when a ship is within 12 nautical miles of a Sovereign sea faring nation, That nation's laws apply to that or any ship within her territorial waters. The cruise lines should know better than to send cruise ships to nations that are not gay friendly. It looks like several lawsuits are coming down the pipe, or even better, to blast this on 60 minutes, and that will get the cruise lines to change their policies and divert these cruises to more gay friendly nations. I am sure that they would want the business.
Marcos Del Valle It wasn't in public. It was on their own private balcony of a private ship not regesterd under the Dominican flag, which they paid for. It was not on their land. I've been on many ships and have witnessed straight couples engaging in sexual acts on a couple of occasions however, it was only visible to the overhead cabin balconies if the side of the ship was slightly tiered. It could not be visible from the land. Oddly enough, I'm sure straight couples have had sex on balconies while in their filthy port/harbor however, nothing is or was ever said about that. So they are not opposed to exposed naked bodies but they are when it's two men. F... them?
In fact, the ship line (Celebrity, which is owned and operated by Royal Carribean International) should be held accountable for allowing those filthy Dominican scumbags from boarding the ship to begin with. If those government people are not paying passengers they should be denied boarding just like any other person that is not a passenger.